What is this Life
philosophic inquiry into life and meaning
...if truth were not for man the desire for truth would not be as a burning unrest in his heart...
| TAT April 2009 Weekend Intensive Notes and Quotes |
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| Written by Administrator |
| Monday, 01 June 2009 13:24 |
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"Look under every rock"
http://tatfoundation.org/
Presentations below are mostly paraphrased, reconstructed from notes and memory. Some topics are hyperlinked for your browsing perusal. Heather Saunders served as TAT's meeting host and facilitator.
Update 6/7/09: TAT members have access to another seeker's quotes. He got much of what I missed during the meeting. His notes. Compare his notes with my notes side by side (recommended but you will need to log into the site to see the other set of notes).
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Rose's teaching is not for making better robots.
Extreme spiritual effort is needed for enlightenment.
There is no cause for enlightenment, so why do anything at all? Effort/struggle increases your odds somehow.
Rose said: "Enlightenment is an accident, but you can-and must-work to become accident-prone!"
Now for the top ten one-liners (in David Letterman top 10 countdown fashion, none are prerequisites and they're not in any order).
#10 - Make a decision and carry it out.
#9 - Get your house in order
#8 - Back away from untruth.
#7 - Doubt everything.
#6 - Keep your head on it, on the spiritual work.
#5 - Look under every rock.
#4 - Retroverse the ray of projection.
#3 - Life gives you all the koans you need.
#2 - Make your life a prayer.
#1 - Betweenness.
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Life is like a flame that goes out unexpectedly.
Art told the story of Natasha Richardson, an actress who fell while skiing on a bunny slope. She got up, laughed and walked away and then started having headaches an hour later and went to the hospital. Hours later she was dead.
We're living between two voids. Birth - (Living) - Death.
We don't know if death brings oblivion or not.
Before awakening we're sleepwalking/dreaming.
The vast unknown within is what you are?
The knowing mind is like a closed fist.
Are you what's aware?
What are you?
We believe we're a separate awareness but we can't find it.
We're stuck in a land of not seeing is believing.
Art described the analogy of Plato's Cave (see here) and that we're like that.
We think we're flickering shadows on the wall of the cave.
The path to realization climbs the wall of anxiety or dissatisfaction.
"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time." - Mark Twain
What does it take for you to live like that?
Socrates advised his students to "practice dying."
"At heart, we all want the same thing, whether we call it 'enlightenment,' 'happiness' or 'love.' Too many people spend their lives waiting for that something to arrive - and that's not the Zen way. Zen is always on the side of action, always on the side of doing what is necessary and right." - Chuck Norris
Rose said Zen is:
Experience is subjective, why is that?
We don't learn the Truth about ourselves, we become aware of what we really are.
Art mentioned an excerpt from an article in the Dana Foundation Newsletter called, "In Search of the God Neuron."
[Where is consciousness and how do you know you are aware?]
Art told of Ramana Maharshi, who at age 17, lay down and "died."
"I am the Spirit transcending the body. The body dies but the spirit transcending it cannot be touched by death. That means I am the deathless Spirit." - Ramana Maharshi
Gates and Stages of enlightenment
The first stage is thinking "I'm a person who..." or "I'm a personality." It's a mask.
The second stage is: "I'm a separate something..."
The third stage is: All your definitions have gotten down to zero. Becoming.
The first thing to do is to notice what you're looking at and look at it hard enough and long enough and will be become intuitively obvious whether it's what you're looking for (or not).
Immanence is from the root word Immanent. Not to be confused with these similar words.
Definitions:
Immanent, adj. Indwelling, inherent, being within the limits of possible experience or knowledge. From the Latin: in manere - "to remain within." Source 1 Source 2
Immanent is what you really are or where you really are.
Ask 'who am I?' once, then shut up and listen for the answer. (Ramana Maharshi?)
Nisargadatta acted on the belief 'you are the supreme deity' by meditation on identity.
Existence is holographic (a projection) like a flickering picture show.
Closer than close analogy: It is so close, It's closer than your:
What could possibly separate your from what you are?
Mind has intense resistance to what it sees.
Mind is in love with it's projections.
Huang Po talks of the Treasure-house within, the place of precious things. Where is it?
"That which is called the Place of Precious Things is the real Mind, the original Buddha-Essence, the treasure of our own real Nature.... Where is the Place of Precious Things? It is a place to which no directions can be given.... All we can say is that it is close by." - Huang Po
Immediate change and becoming. You are either aware of what you are or not. There is no 10% or 25% self-aware.
Goes from knowing to unknowing.
Suppose...you are on your deathbed (and not doped up or unconscious)...
Art gave a statistic about the death-rate (8.23 people per thousand per year die.) Source
Meditation is for taking care of unfinished business.
"Every day, therefore, should be regulated as if it were the one that brings up the rear, the one that rounds out and completes our lives." - Seneca (Roman philosopher and statesman)
Two questions for you: 1) Do you have unfinished business with yourself?
Self-consciousness - Nisargadatta called it the "scorpion's sting."
Art mentioned Douglas Harding's book The Little Book of Life and Death The art of living is to die before one dies.
"Action is not turning your head away from the conflict going on." - Art Ticknor
Are you looking for a path or way to more adventure? Or a door to peace and perfection?
The doorway to Self is always right behind you and always open.
Procrastination.
Do you think the willingness to do anything necessary for enlightenment activates the lever (spiritual help)?
Is your pride preventing a spiritual leap of faith?
Art recommends My Stroke of Insight by Jill Bolte Taylor.
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We had a rapport sitting and then Bob read Transitions a poem by Richard Rose (from Carillon).
Bob related the story of his father dying on his deathbed.
Two I senses: the I/me sense of self and the sense of being behind it all.
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How well do you know yourself?
"Man is a machine, but a very peculiar machine. He is a machine which, in right circumstances, and with right treatment, can know that he is a machine, and having fully realized this, he may find the ways to cease to be a machine. First of all, what man must know is that he is not one; he is many. He has not one permanent and unchangeable 'I' or Ego. He is always different. One moment he is one, another moment he is another, the third moment he is a third, and so on, almost without end." - P.D. Ouspensky
Are you a robot?
Mind is the greatest enemy. We need to kill the mind, exhaust the thought processes.
"A man must awaken first, before he can die aright. And if he awakens first, and dies in the right way to himself, he may be re-born if there is anything worthwhile and sufficiently strong and real in him." - Maurice Nicoll, Psychological Commentaries on the Teaching of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky
"Our little consciousness hides the big Consciousness like a penny hides the Sun." - Alfred Pulyan. [Mind is the penny that hides the sun.]
We need to get behind our thinking. What does that mean?
If you're observing your self, then what you're observing is not you.
Mind observes itself, a split conundrum and it cycles.
"Watch out for thinking too much - it's taking me away from seeing something. Thinking may be a tool used against you." - Bob Cergol
"Find a way out of thoughts that spin. Find stable (mental) ground. Look past verbal thought (turn head away from the observable)." - Shawn Nevins
"Just by simple looking. That was my path. Self-honesty and earnestness" - Anima Pundeer.
How do you know you're observing?
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"The history of the most eminent sages is one of men who never stopped working, if for no other reason than to amplify their vector by helping others."
"There is no religion greater than human friendship." - Richard Rose, The Albigen Papers
Paul read two poems.
The first was Sangsara and Nirvana by Franklin Merrell-Wolff. I believe only the first part, Sangsara, was read.
Sangsara
Thou monster, spawned of Ignorance impregnated by human ideation;
Nirvana
FELT DIMLY in the soul, by world-man unconceived;
The second was Friendship by Richard Rose.
Friendship
I passed through a deep crevice at twilight,
Friends:
Paul talked about how he found TAT through book stuffers (paper flyers inside books advertising other books that readers might like).
What can new people do? - Form a group is one suggestion.
Rose said he didn't get anywhere until he helped others.
If building a shed it's a good idea to get advice from a carpenter.
What does it mean to help others?
How do I get past selfishness?
How do we get past using a teacher as a crutch?
Paul recommended Shawn Nevins Seeker's List of Things to Do.
Realize that you want to help others.
Paul mentioned he did an exercise year ago of writing a letter of a summary of what you know to the teacher to summarize what you've learned.
What did you get form the spiritual path or TAT?
Paul read an excerpt of the practical approach from Psychology of the Observer by Richard Rose.
We then broke out into small groups for an exercise. Here's what we did.
One person in the group (volunteer) was to explain a problem to the other members (about 5 people to a group total) and the others were there to try to help solve the problem.
The person with the problem should be watching their thoughts during the exercise.
The people helping should also watch their thoughts while helping.
Watch how you receive help and how you help.
Q1 To the person being helped: What was the most difficult aspect of accepting help?
Q2 To those offering help: What was the most difficult aspect of offering help?
One response to Q2, Feeling of pride, my reactions, not listening deeply enough and not having enough perspective myself to offer advice.
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Mike talked about confrontation and how it can be useful to have another serve as a mirror for us. Then he went around the room and asked questions confrontation style to several participants and a general discussion ensued.
Shawn Nevin's definition of confrontation: "Rose considered confrontation one of the cornerstones of spiritual work. Basically, it is a group discussion in which members look for inconsistencies, rationalizations, and blind beliefs in one another. It easily devolves into ego-based debate and defense without a skilled moderator."
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We had a rapport sitting and Shawn Read a poem.
"Everywhere Electric" by Shawn Nevins
A calm wind scales the wall of my self
The group talked about how do you know what to do, intuition, letting go "effortless meditation" and trusting the universe knows how to run itself. |


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